MACDOUGALLII Walther, 1958
Synonym : Echeveria sedoides E. Walther (1958)
Series Nudae
Type : According to the respective herbarium sheet CAS 268566, the type is a plant from Victor Reiter, received from MacDougall 1938, but it is not T. MacDougall B-15.
Etymology : Named for its discoverer, Thomas MacDougall.
Distribution: Mexico (Oaxaca).
Description by Reid Moran of a plant from habitat :
Caudex erect, 11 cm tall, 8 mm thick, somewhat branching, reddish.
Rosette 3 cm wide, of ca 15 leaves, crowded.
Leaves elliptic-oblanceolate, acute, to 15 x 9 x 4 mm.
Floral stem 9 cm tall, 3.5 mm thick, with ca 15 leaf scars, raceme 3-flowered, pedicels 5 mm long x 1.5 mm.
Flowers : Calyx disk 3 - 4 mm wide, the segments wide-spreading, nearly equal, elliptic, acute, 6 - 9 x 2 - 3 x 1.5 mm, corolla 11 - 12 mm long, 8 mm wide at the base, 4 mm wide at the apex, red, with yellow on covered edges.
Cytology : n = 19, 34, 40, 42, 50
Note :
The type of E. macdougallii is a plant of unknown origin. It is not E. B-15. The description is made from another plant of unknown origin, also not E. B-15, i.e. E. B-15 is not at all involved in Walther's E. macdougallii. As the name is fixed to the type, E. macdougallii is the plant represented by CAS 268566, provided by MacDougall but not one of his Mexican collections. Walther's description under the title E. macdougallii does not apply to the latter, it is the description of the unknown plant from his garden.
To summarise :
1. We have a specimen of a plant with unknown Mexican origin, prepared 1939, because of Walther's designation as type now bearing the name E. macdougallii.
2. We have B-15, mentioned several times but not involved in any way and never pressed / named / described.
3. We have a plant from Walther's own collection, origin unknown, whose description was published in Cact. Succ. J. (Los Angeles) 1958, lacking a name because it does not correspond to the specimen designated as type and therefore bearing the name E. macdougallii.
Needless to say that this chapter in Walther's monograph is not worth the paper it is printed on.
This is one of the biggest frauds Walther has committed.
Details see p. 260 - 261 in Revision of Walther's monograph Echeveria, 1972.
2. Pilbeam, The genus Echeveria, p. 166, fig. 209, 2008, most certainly does not show E. macdougallii, to prove the contrary the flowers of this plant would be necessary.

The photo shows the region where Thomas MacDougall discovered the Echeveria later named for him.
The collection locality of MacDougall B.15 is situated between San Miguel Tenango and Tehuantepec.
The type locality of E. sedoides is San Bartolo Yautepec.
Moran 7743 is another locality where E. macdougallii has been found.
Santiago Lachiguiri - mentioned in Pilbeam, The genus Echeveria, p. 318 - is the locality of a plant vegetatively somewhat differing from either E. macdougallii or E. sedoides, however with corresponding flowers.
Pilbeam listed E. macdougallii localities thus (p. 166) :
"Reported from Mexico, Oaxaca, Cerro Tres Cruces, Tenango; Palacio San Bartolo Yautepec, at 1400m (E. sedoides); 2 km north of Juxtlahuaca, on an exposed ridge; near Tehuantepec and much further south-west near Santiago Lachiguiri." And regarding Santiago Lachiguiri (p. 318) he wrote : "... in south-east Oaxaca, well away from previous reported localities for E. macdougallii ...".
As the above map shows, Santiago Lachiguiri is neither "further south-west" nor "well away" from the known localities. It is quite obvious that Pilbeam ignored the geography of E. macdougallii.
In habitat :



Photos © Ralph Mangelsdorff




E. madcougallii at Lachiguiri :
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Photos Gerhard Köhres
In cultivation :


There is also a crested form :

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Photo Noelene Tomlinson



Echeveria macdougallii 'Sedoides' :


Photos Noelene Tomlinson


Photos Santino Rischitelli
A somewhat different form of E. sedoides :

E. macdougallii ‘Lachiguiri’ with somewhat smaller leaves :

At left E. macdougallii, at right E. macdougallii ‘Lachiguiri’ :

Photos Margrit Bischofberger